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Sat Jun 13, 2009, 12:36 AM
So, there was an anthro DD a couple of days ago which got a couple of complaints.

To start off with, it was a truly gorgeous piece that clearly a lot of time and effort had gone into, so it didn't deserve any complaints. And more than that, it shouldn't have received any: FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature?

A number of people commented on the similarities between one of the characters depicted and a creation by Ashley wood. I looked at the character in the DD'd image and compared it to the picture of Wood's work and there are similarities. But it isn't identical, by any means. There are a number of key design features which differ between the two characters which I will be happy to point out and explain should anyone need me to do so, but I'd be surprised if it's necessary.

I would say that the artist was inspired by Ashley Wood and there's nothing wrong with that - hell, one of the reasons I use dA is so that I can be inspired by all the fantastic art out there. So much of the art on deviantART is inspired by other fantastic artists and it isn't fair, and it isn't right, to attack somebody or their art because they were inspired by another artist. Picasso, the world's greatest kleptomaniac, was inspired by so many people but did he feel obliged to back each canvas with where he found his inspiration? No, because that's just silly and people demanding it are petty.

Continuing with the Picasso example, here's an infamous example:


On the left is a photograph of the exhausted horse from the far right corner of the East Pediment from the Parthenon, showing the birth of Athena. On the right is a drawing of a horse's head by Palo Picasso. There's similarities, right? But it's not identical, right? So would you start hounding Picasso to give the poor Ancient Greeks a little credit? Of course not, he's Pablo Picasso for god's sake! So why would you do it to less well know artist on deviantART? And more than that, why would you do it to someone who's part of your community?

What surprised me were really the comments on the piece - some of the personal attacks and some by artists I really respected. It amazes and saddens me to see the community acting in such a way and I can't imagine how it make this poor deviant feel; I bet it made them feel terrible though.



I hate to post such a negative journal but I felt that the comments on that piece deserved such a response.

In other news, congratulations to $Moonbeam13 and good luck! :giggle:

I also hope to be attending the #hq London devMeet tomorrow - is anyone going?

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:iconsavagebinn:
I really think people were just looking for something to complain about (hey, it's a DD after all, what can you expect? :lol:)

I'd never heard of Ashley Wood before this, but from what I see, they both made Cylindrical shaped robots with one eye. R2D2, anyone? It's a concept that's been used in scifi and anime many times before this, and not exclusive to either of them.

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I think you're right but that doesn't make it acceptable! :noes:

I know, it's ridiculous. There may have been some inspiration involved, but the characters are by no means identical and I'm ashamed by the way some of the community have been acting, to be honest with you.

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Haha, this journal is very right! When I first started out with a character (Mercury), I took inspiration from *seel-dingo, although I was not aiming to rip her off. When I displayed my character at another site, I was hounded with hate mail and such. I was so distraught I actually messaged Seel to see her opinion on the matter and even she said that our characters had quite a few differences. I'm sure If Wood were to be consulted, they wouldn't have any problem with the piece, and as you said, it is sad that people seem to pick up on the smallest of details that are irrelivant. Human nature just seems to be that way.

I do like your example about Pablo, though. I didn't know that. :) Thanks.

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The artists tend to be so understanding, it's the fans that kick up a fuss! :giggle:

And yeah, Picasso nicked everything from everywhere... He's famous for it.

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:icondonhosho:
This journal in fact is very important, because I personally spent long time if my life doing art without getting a real inspiration, while I believe, through my study of history of art, the inspiration is a basic part of most great art pieces in world. And I had to push my self to get inspired.. inspiration means we can feel for others art and we can push it forward, and this is what i try to do these days in deviantART.
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Gah it always irks me when people complain about DD's, even more so when the have the cheek to do in in the submission comments. It's like saying "Your art isn't good enough for people to look at." Well IMO all art is worthwhile, and if someone gets a DD for a pic then good on them, they deserve it!

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UNTIL Quality -> "Unbelieviably awesome!"
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I agree.
And one of the comments in particular said almost exactly those words; "Your art isn't good enough for a DD."

I was simply amazed.

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The way some of these are like, it reminds me of one of my characters, Horatio's name (Horatio Sebastian Montague*) is taken from a mishmash of popular Shakesperian plays, though I came up with Horatio as a name on it's own before re-naming his sister Viola Ophelia. Also his middle name is taken from one of my favourite saints <3

And his appearance is based on the fact I used to totally love Trunks Briefs from DBZ and he looks really similar to Tedd from El Goonish Shive. This is because I had started to read EGS when I'd made him, and liked how Tedd's hair went. The fact they're both pretty skinny is unrelated. I just wanted a contrast to Freddy.

But I don't think in any way these would be considered rips.

*Sometimes changes

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Mean, jealous people...

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UNTIL Quality -> "Unbelieviably awesome!"

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